How do I talk about what I do?

Direct Answer

Lead with what your client's business looks like after the work, and leave the deliverables for later in the conversation. Most consultants answer this question at the level of tactics, which is accurate and forgettable. The move that fixes it is a ladder: what you do, then what clients get, then what it means for their business.

Leah Neaderthal

Leah Neaderthal

Founder, Smart Gets Paid

Best Move

Answer with the end state your client gets, and save the deliverables for a later question.

Why It Works

A busy person can picture an end state and cannot picture a list of services.

Next Step

Write your current answer down, then ask "so what" three times and keep the last answer.

What you need to know

You don't have to rebrand your whole business or change what you offer or how you offer it.

Leah Neaderthal, Smart Gets Paid

Why does my answer come out as rambling?

Rambling happens because you're answering from inside your own process, where everything is connected and nothing is more important than anything else. You know the whole engagement: the discovery, the workshops, the analysis, the recommendations, the handover. The person asking wants one sentence.

The women I talk to describe it in almost identical words. They say they don't know how to talk about what they do in the best way possible, or that when they explain it they feel like they're rambling. That's a structural problem, and it comes from having no agreed first sentence to fall back on.

Two things create the ramble:

  • No decision about which client you mean, so the sentence tries to cover several at once. Deciding that comes first, and choosing your ideal client is the page for it.
  • No decision about which level you're answering on. Tactics, outcomes and value are three different answers, and picking one before you open your mouth is most of the fix.

What are the three levels of messaging?

The three levels are tactics and activities, outcomes and benefits, and value, and they climb from what you do toward what it means. Each one is true. They land very differently on somebody who has thirty seconds for you.

LevelWhat it describesHow it sounds
Tactics and activitiesWhat you do and how you do it, including deliverables"I do digital marketing"
Outcomes and benefitsWhat clients get, and how their business is different"I help businesses build their newsletter list and sell more products"
ValueThe end state, meaning what it ultimately means for the business"I help businesses turn website visitors into customers"

I once filmed this in IKEA because the store lays it out better than any diagram. A cabinet face on the wall is a tactic: it's a real thing and it means almost nothing on its own. The same face built into a drawer unit is an outcome, because now you can see what it does. The same pieces assembled into a full kitchen is value, because now you can see what it would mean in your own home.

Your services are the cabinet faces. Clients are trying to picture the kitchen.

How do I get from my services list up to the value?

Ask "so what" of your own answer until the answer stops changing, and the last one standing is usually your value. It's a blunt exercise and it works because it forces you past the language you're comfortable with.

Run it in four steps:

  1. Write down what you do. The services, the deliverables, the process. Be specific and boring.
  2. Ask what the client has once that's done. Not what you handed over. What changed in their business.
  3. Ask what that gets them. Keep going while the answers keep moving.
  4. Stop when the answer is the state their business is in. That's the level to lead with.

A worked example from my own students, described by their work and not by name. A consultant in corporate social responsibility could say "I do corporate social responsibility consulting," which is a tactic. What she said instead was that she turns a company's corporate responsibility program into its greatest word of mouth tool. A conversion copywriter could accurately say "I'm a conversion copywriter." What she said instead was that she uncovers hidden revenue in your email list.

Notice that neither of them changed what they sell. They changed the sentence they lead with, and building that sentence deliberately is a short exercise.

What if every project is different and I can't boil it down?

Every project being different is normal, and it doesn't prevent one sentence, because the sentence describes the problem you solve and never the shape of the engagement. Two projects can look nothing alike and still deliver the same end state.

This objection comes up almost every time I teach this, and it's usually true on the facts and wrong about the conclusion. A consultant who runs a six-week diagnostic for one client and an eight-month build for another still solves one recognizable problem for both. The variation lives in scope and delivery, and your first sentence is about neither.

What to do when the work really does vary

  • Describe the problem, and let scope stay flexible. "I help X with Y" survives any project shape.
  • Pick the version you want more of. If two kinds of project both fit, lead with the one you want to be hired for next year.
  • Keep the deliverables for the proposal, where variation is a feature and a proposal can carry options.

If the sentence still won't come, the problem is usually further upstream, in who you decided you were for.

Leah's take

I want to name what makes this question so loaded, because it isn't really about words.

The ability to answer "so what do you do" affects how other people understand what you do in the world, and it affects how you see yourself. That second part is the one nobody says out loud. When you can't describe your own work cleanly, it starts to feel like evidence about you, and I've seen accomplished women conclude they might not be cut out for this on the strength of one bad networking conversation.

So here's the reframe I'd offer. This is a messaging exercise. It is not a branding exercise, and it is not a verdict. You don't have to rebrand, change your offer, or change how you deliver. You have to decide who you're talking to and what level you're answering on, and then say one sentence.

And the first sale is to yourself. If you don't yet believe the thing you do is worth being hired for, the sentence will come out hedged no matter how well it's built. Fix the sentence, and quite often the belief follows it.

More questions about this topic

Should I say my job title or my value first?

Say the value first and let the title follow if it's useful. A title tells somebody which category to file you in and nothing about whether they need you. If your title is well understood in your client's world, it can ride along at the end of the sentence, but leading with it hands the listener a filing job when you wanted to hand them a reason to keep talking.

Isn't leading with an end state overpromising?

Describing an end state isn't the same as guaranteeing it, and the distinction shows up in how you phrase the work. You can say what your work is for and what it positions a client to do without promising a result you don't control. In a proposal I say plainly that I can't promise any single outcome, and that I can make sure a client has the tools to capitalize on every opportunity.

What do I say to someone who isn't a potential client at all?

Say the same sentence, because it works better socially than a services list does. Friends, family and people at parties remember an end state and forget a job description, and those are the people who refer you later without ever hiring you. There's no reason to keep a second, vaguer answer for civilians.

How long should my answer be?

One sentence, then stop and let them ask. The instinct is to keep going while the other person's face settles, and that instinct is what turns a good first line into a paragraph nobody finishes. If they want the deliverables they'll ask for the deliverables, and the question they ask next tells you what they cared about.

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Leah Neaderthal

Leah Neaderthal

Leah Neaderthal is the founder of Smart Gets Paid, where she has helped hundreds of women consultants attract more of the clients they want and get paid more for their work. For more than a decade, she has taught women consultants how to bring in clients on purpose and get paid more for their value, through her program, The Academy. She's also the host of The Smart Gets Paid podcast. Learn more at smartgetspaid.com.

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